Notes for Gemelo 16

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Gemelo 16 Plain

Solver difficulty rating

3.5 based on 38 votes (voting is now closed)

Your collective rating of G15’s versified challenge was  more than a full point down on its predecessor; the votes were distributed in a way that produced a near-symmetrical bell curve, there being a few 1s and 5s, a higher number of 2s and 4s, and a higher number still of 3s . I rated it as a 2, largely because the constraint on the setter limited the complexity of the clues, but at the same time it also led to some rather vague definitions, and I wasn’t sure whether to opt for 2 or 3. I think the solver ratings are very interesting, and I’d like to take the opportunity to thank all of you who provide them.

This week’s puzzle seemed just a little flat to me, with a few clues that felt rather too convoluted for their own good, but perhaps I just wasn’t in the ideal frame of mind for it. Unusually, but in common with Gemelo 8, there were no seven-letter entries in the grid.

Setters’ Corner: This week I’m going to look at clue 25a, “King rejected honey dish (5)”. The chess-and cards abbreviation for ‘king’ is followed by a reversal of a term of endearment similar to ‘honey’, the result being “a dish of thin slices cut from a block of minced and seasoned lamb grilled on a spit”. The point of interest here is the reversal indicator, ‘rejected’. The word ‘reject’ derives from the Latin verb meaning ‘to throw back’, but Chambers doesn’t give any sense of it which suggests reversal, and neither does Collins, while the OED gives the ‘throw back’ meaning as ‘rare’. That said, I suspect that most solvers will have seen ‘rejected’, said to themselves “reversal indicator”, and moved on. I think it falls into the category of cryptic ‘codes’ which are hard to justify but are fixtures in the cruciverbal landscape – that doesn’t mean that I would ever use it myself, though.

Across

1a Type A struck by intelligence, hard to impress (12, 4 words)
This five-part charade involves a four-letter word for ‘type’ (as in ‘type of car’), the letter A (from the clue), a three-letter word meaning (‘struck’), a three-letter word for ‘intelligence’, and the usual single-letter abbreviation for ‘hard’. The answer is (4,1,3,4).

10a S American plainsman’s brief ceremony cut short (6)
A four-letter word for ‘showy ceremony’ deprived of its last letter (‘brief’) is followed by a four-letter word for ‘cut’, similarly trimmed (‘short’).

12a Crisp potatoes to save you shouldn’t have eaten at the start (5)
A six-letter ‘informal’ form of ‘potatoes’ loses (‘to save’) a two-letter informal interjection meaning ‘thank you’ (ie “you shouldn’t have”) and is followed by the first letter (‘at the start’) of ‘eaten’.

17a Flash photography originally avoided by design (3)
The first letter (‘originally’) of ‘photography’ is dropped (‘avoided’) by a four-letter informal shortened form of a thirteen-letter word, this abbreviated version being used frequently in the context of the attributes of a particular car model or the design of a computer program.

25a Canadian channel from Hamilton then shifted centrally (4)
A four-letter Scots (‘Hamilton’) word meaning ‘then’ (or, when it comes to New Year’s Eve, ‘since’) has its central letters swapped over (‘shifted centrally’) to produce the answer.

27a Tree no longer living after losing bark (3)
A five-letter word with an archaic (‘no longer’) meaning of ‘living’ (but now typically used to mean ‘necessary to life’ or ‘essential’) is stripped of its first and last letters (‘after losing bark’).

29a Stop on the spot – and again, by god! (6, 2 words)
A two-letter adverb meaning (among many other things) ‘on the spot’ is followed by the same word (‘and again’), the pair being put after (‘by’) the alternative spelling (not the one with an A) of the two-letter name of the ancient Egyptian sun-god. The answer is divided (4,2).

33a One tending to flee after middle of test, repeatedly assuming your backing (12, 2 words)
A three-letter word meaning ‘to flee’ is put after the middle letters of ‘test’ , the combination being duplicated (‘repeatedly’) either side of (‘assuming’) the two-letter abbreviation for ‘your’; the whole shebang is then reversed (‘backing’). The solution is (7,5), but I have a problem with the definition – the only modern intransitive sense of ‘tend’ given by Chambers is ‘pay attention’, and I don’t think that fits with the answer.

Down

1d Social movement engulfing rector and priest, separately fired before an archbishop (12)
The name given to the “cultural movement that seeks to expose and eradicate predatory sexual behaviour, especially in the workplace”, containing (‘engulfing’) first the usual single-letter abbreviation for ‘rector’ and then later on (ie ‘separately’) the single-letter abbreviation for ‘priest’, is followed by a three-letter word meaning ‘fired’ (or ‘set fire to’) and the letters AN (from the clue).

2d Currency arrangement formerly underpinning krona is fair for Brussels (6)
The three-letter abbreviation for “the mechanism formerly used in the European Monetary System in which participating governments committed themselves to maintain the values of their currencies in relation to the ECU” follows the single-letter abbreviation for ‘krona’, this combination preceding the letters IS (from the clue).

6d Wet bud in Gower (4)
The way into this double definition clue is the ‘chiefly North American slang’ – but now common in the UK – term for a ‘wet’ or a particularly timid person, which always puts me in mind of Homer Simpson and his shame at being thought of as a ‘chilli ????’ which drives him to coat his mouth with wax in order to consume the  Merciless Pepper of Quetzalacatenango, also known as the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOz2u0ptQoQ).

7d Chauffeur cycling to get cones? (4)
A four-letter Anglo-Indian word for a servant who attends to horses or (according to Chambers, anyway) a chauffeur has its first letter moved to the end (‘cycling’).

13d Swaying run adopted by somebody exhausted (6)
A four-letter word for ‘run’ in the sense of discharging a fluid is contained (‘adopted’) by the first and last letters (‘exhausted’) of ‘somebody’.

15d Self-evident fraud almost taking in group from the Outer Hebrides (8)
A five-letter word for a fraud or a deceit missing its last letter (‘almost’) contains (‘taking’) the four-letter name given to a group of islands in the Outer Hebrides.

24d Dutch city’s finally removed river levee (6)
Hands up if you first thought you were looking for a Dutch city. Yes, my hand is raised – you got me there, Gemelo. In reality, the single-letter abbreviation for ‘Dutch’ precedes a word meaning ‘of a city’ (ie “city’s”) without its last letter (‘finally removed’) and the usual abbreviation for ‘river’.

29d Orders from section of menu? (4)
I believe that the idea here is that a section of a menu devoted to a particular type of wine would have a heading that corresponds to the answer, but Chambers defines ‘menu’ as “in a restaurant, etc, a list of dishes that may be ordered”, so I don’t think this works.

(definitions are underlined)

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14 Responses

  1. Peter says:

    I too can add my name to the roll of those who scoured lists of Dutch cities! I really should know by now that it’s almost certain to be the second most likely country available. A definite “note to self”. Don’t worry, still 4 Tests to go.

  2. Darius says:

    8D The length indication, (12), is misleading. It should be (3,9). This sort of laziness drives me to drink!

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Darius

      Point taken, but Chambers gives the word as being hyphenated, 3-9, and the convention in barred puzzles is that hyphenated words are enumerated as single words; had Chambers shown it as comprising two words, it would have been enumerated as (12, 2 words). With the notable exception of the Spectator puzzle, this – rightly or wrongly – is what you can expect in UK barred puzzles.

      Note: anything that drives you to drink should also drive you home again.

  3. MuchPuzzled says:

    Horrendously difficult puzzle. I could only manage 5 solutions before seeking assistance here.
    I don’t understand your objections to 33A whereby, in a similar way that shepherds tend their flocks, a 33A tends its charges. Makes perfect sense to me.
    Not happy with the definitions at 12A “Crisp” and 17A “Flash” which seem unreasonably obscure.
    I presume the “Lid removed” at 23D is a ‘G’ which I found a strange construction, not to mention those at 1D and 11D!
    I still cannot see how 3D is derived and I have a 3-5 hyphenated compound for 22A which again does not make much sense to me.
    Nowhere near as satisfying as the Killer Sudoku by Godefridus, which is challenging but ultimately solvable without all the grief!

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi MP

      You’ve hit the nail on the head regarding my objection to 33a – one has to tend something, one can’t just tend – ‘one tending charges’ would be fine.

      Yes, the ‘lid’ at 23d is the G of the ‘tongue’. Had I included a note on this clue, I would have questioned the use of ‘lid’ (even in a down clue) to indicate the first letter of a word – Chambers doesn’t offer a meaning that supports it, ‘hat’ probably being the closest.

      3d is what the Beano’s Dennis is without a word for ships, as in ???-of-war. 22a is an anagram (‘cast’) of SPOILERS – the word ‘grease’ has been deceptively capitalized and italicized.

      • Paul Pridmore says:

        I feel no one has worked out what 29d is getting at. Is there something about a menu we have all missed? Otherwise, the clue is as feeble as can be. As for 33a, I don’t see a problem. Why is ‘one tending’ for this word any worse as a definition than ‘one cooking’ for, say, ‘pastry chef’? Even though cook, intransitively, means to become cooked, that’s hardly a problem. Hundreds of clues would have to have an intrusive ‘something/somebody’ after the verb, and surely 29a (clumsy as it is) would have to begin ‘Stop something/somebody’, since the answer phrase can hardly mean stop intransitively, i.e. stop oneself.

        • Doctor Clue says:

          Hi Paul

          I agree that 29d is pretty feeble, albeit that some restaurants do offer a ‘drinks menu’ or a single menu which includes wines.

          The reason that ‘one cooking’ is acceptable for (say) CHEF is that ‘cook’ has an intransitive sense of ‘to practise cookery’, so no problem there – if it only meant ‘to become cooked’ there would certainly be an issue. Transitive verbs frequently have a matching intransitive form which can be used in the habitual present tense, so ‘one kills’ is fine for MURDERER, and hence the error in 33a is relatively uncommon. However ‘one keeps’ would be inadequate for LOOKOUT or DIARIST. One can cook, kill or paint for a living, but one can’t tend or keep (unless you’re Jamie Smith).

          There is no problem at all with a transitive verb defining another transitive verb, so ‘stop’ for REIN IN is absolutely fine. ‘Desist’ for REIN IN is not.

  4. Rudolph Hucker says:

    There are a couple of incorrect clue numbers above. 19/25ac should read 25/27ac

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Rudolph

      Thanks for that – I was, as you might surmise, originally planning to comment on 19 and 25, changed my mind, pasted in the clues, but didn’t change the clue numbers…now fixed

  5. Jay says:

    Thanks as always for the detailed analysis. I was also held up looking for Dutch cities and having found the Canadian channel had to back into the Scots word.
    I keep a list of Scots indicators and the couple here were new additions and interesting to see a Welsh indicator. I would tend to associate Arbroath with the smoking process and wondered if there was a reason for Gemelo’s choice here.

    • Doctor Clue says:

      I have no idea why Gemelo chose Stenhousemuir, except perhaps that he liked the sound of the name – but it is surely trumped by Ecclefechan (not to mention Yetts o’ Muckhart and many others) in that respect. Or perhaps he has some personal connection with the town. Like you, I think of Arbroath when it comes to smoking, but clearly any Scottish town or city would serve to indicate the Scots spelling here.

      I can see that the Gower peninsula is likely to be home to many buds, although that could be said of anywhere in Wales. Hamilton, of course, was deviously chosen to suggest a continuation of the Canadian theme, that city being part of a list that includes East London and (though it’s currently painful to say) Perth 😱.

  6. Jim Hackett says:

    Thanks Doc. I had 12a and 2d wrong. Would you comment on 3d please?

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Jim

      3d Authority‘s threat to unload ships (3). A six-letter word for a threat loses (‘to unload’) a three-letter word for ships (as in the “of war” type). The answer is an authority in the sense of an expert, although the two words are on the borderline in terms of being interchangeable, one typically being practical and the other theoretical.

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