{"id":4011,"date":"2023-10-17T19:12:56","date_gmt":"2023-10-17T18:12:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.clueclinic.com\/?p=4011"},"modified":"2023-10-20T10:25:57","modified_gmt":"2023-10-20T09:25:57","slug":"blog-post-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/2023\/10\/17\/blog-post-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Some Mistake?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I saw a comment on an online forum recently in which a solver had objected to &#8216;some&#8217; as a hidden indicator. While it transpired that they had mistaken it for a letter selection indicator, and had no issue with it in the former role, I was prompted to reassess the use of the word. I don&#8217;t think that anyone could complain about &#8216;some of these escorts&#8217; as the wordplay for SEES, but what about &#8216;some chase escorts&#8217;? In the first instance, &#8216;some&#8217; is technically an indefinite pronoun (though I would be inclined to view it as a quasi-noun), but in the second it is an adjective, and the noun which it qualifies is always generic (&#8216;some bread&#8217;, &#8216;some words&#8217;). Hence in the &#8216;real world&#8217; it never refers to a part of anything specific, whereas &#8216;some of&#8217; always does, as in &#8216;some of this text&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I&#8217;m very doubtful about the validity of this adjectival usage, and my concerns extend to other similar adjectives, such as &#8216;little&#8217; and &#8216;most&#8217; &#8211; again the noun-based forms &#8216;a little of&#8217; and &#8216;most of&#8217; are fine, but &#8216;a little bread&#8217; and &#8216;most bread&#8217; refer to bread generically, so &#8216;a little bread&#8217; to indicate B and &#8216;most bread&#8217; for MONE(y) both strike me as unsound.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Although I plan to stop using these indicators in my own clues, they are commonly seen in puzzles by a wide range of setters and rarely (if ever) seem to trouble solvers, so I hesitate to remove them from the lists on this site. Any views would be welcomed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I saw a comment on an online forum recently in which a solver had objected to &#8216;some&#8217; as a hidden indicator. While it transpired that they had mistaken it for a letter selection indicator,&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1427,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"yasr_overall_rating":0,"yasr_post_is_review":"","yasr_auto_insert_disabled":"","yasr_review_type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4011","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog"],"yasr_visitor_votes":{"stars_attributes":{"read_only":false,"span_bottom":false},"number_of_votes":0,"sum_votes":0},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4011","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4011"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4011\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4022,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4011\/revisions\/4022"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1427"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4011"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4011"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clueclinic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4011"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}